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 Greenies Death's & Problems widespread | I recently joined a great forum called Differentdawn where what to my wondering eyes should find but a thread about about "Hazardous Treats". Yup, you guessed it, the hazardous treats were "Greenies". Here is a little bit for you read: |
Hazardous Treats? Jack had a bad experience with one of his favorite treats: Greenies. Not too long after he had eaten one, he started becoming depressed and lethargic. Finally, he yacked up green, expanded, (yet still hardish) rubbery pieces. Through out the rest of the day was vomiting bile.
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Well, that was enough to scare me out of giving him anymore of those, but he wasn't too happy about that decision. He loves those things. All I kept thinking was "what if it had caused a blockage?" The chunks of greenie had not only resisted breaking down inside Jack for well over 7 hours, but they had expanded in sized and felt hard and rubber-like. I picked them up with a paper towel and put them in a plastic baggy for Editor's analysis. But before she even got the chance to see the gathered evidence, I also checked online and read some other much more horrific stories pertaining to these green teeth cleaning treats. I decided to no longer let Jack have them and, boy, is Jack grumpy!
I've found some more on greenies from different forums and blogs and wanted to post just a handful:
Quote: | My Bella is a young healthy toy poodle, she loves greenies and never gulps her food. The last time I gave her a greenie she seemed fine with it, no gulping and I watched her chew it down to a nub. Later that night she began gagging and threw up several times. I did not connect it to the greenie since she had eaten them before. The following day she would not eat and took very little water. She threw up several more times and I decided to call the vet. After several fairly expensive test were done, I was told that she had a blockage. They gave her meds to try and dissolve whatever it was that was causing the blockage. The vet agreed that it could very well be the greenie...well, that is all it could of been. Mind you that the vet sells greenies in their lobby. Well, thankfully the treatment worked and Bella is fine today. We switched vets since then to one that is not a greenie salesperson. |
Quote: I would like everyone to BAN GREENIES from their dog's diet. Yes they can choke on anything, but why give them something that is such a HAZARD to begin with. Six weeks, thousands of dollars later, I still have my dog but we have been through hell because of this product.
My dog had a piece stuck at the base of her esophagus and had to have an esophagoscopy to push it into her stomach, it caused severe damage to her throat and she now has a feeding tube so her throat can heal. SIX WEEKS later she still has a feeding tube and we are not done w/this yet. We obviously love our 2 yr old dog very much and have tried everything we can to save her, this product is dangerous. The doctors at the Veterinary specialists we see have told us of other horror stories involving Greenies, they do not recommend them at all.
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Quote: Mike, I too am so sorry to hear about your poor fur child. I used to give my previous dog greenies on occasion and he was fine, thank God but in visiting the various pet forums over the past few months, I've seen MANY greenie horror stories. Some Vet techs will tell you that many of their patients with intestinal blockages involved greenies.
Also, people, do NOT give your dogs Velvet Booda Bones. The same risk is there with those, as well.
Rawhydes are another thing on the warning list. They are absolutely not digestable. Chopped, pressed rawhydes are a better alternative.
You are doing a wonderful thing, Mike. Burt would be proud of you.
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Quote: You ask for proof about the problems with Greenies. I AM LIVING PROOF. 4 weeks ago my mini daschund was rushed to emergency care. He was vomiting blood the whole along the way. The doctor recommended exploratory surgery. What happened next disgusts me - the doctor had to remove 3 feet of my dog's small intestines. They had turned "necrotic". The cause a "foreign body". This foreign body was saved and placed in my hand after the surgery. It was the unmistakable toothbrush end of the Greenie. My dog DIED 48 hours later. WE did evertything according to the rules and even their own vet has gone on record with me saying that he could find no fault in anything that we or the doctor did.
POPE, my dog died. Ok, This exact time 4 weeks ago my wife and I stood in an emeregency vet hoping that our dog would live, and disgusted when we found out the cause of the problem. Our dog, Burt, is like MANY dogs that experience the same problem: Burt chewed his Greenie, he swallowed it down. No problems from that point on, right. I mean, the choking danger has passed, right? Well, my dog is dead. That's a problem. Like MANY of dogs, the greenie never fully digested. Actually, the piece that I held in my had had actually expanded about 1/3 larger than it was. Equate this to my mini daschund situation and its like trying to get bowling ball down a straw.
This has happened to MANY dogs. Google all sorts of things: greenies death, greenies problems, greenies digestability. Check out dogster and other forums. You will be alarmed at how many postings there are and more are coming forward. I am aware of 4 fatalities, including my own. And multiple cases of blood vomiting, near death experiences, surgeries, etc etc. And it appears as though the experiences are all eerily similar in that they seem to carry the common thread that the product just doens't break down the way that they claim that it does on their slick bullcrap packaging.
Think twice before you take these forums personally and do your homework. It is all too easy for these postings to get heated and then people lose track of the reason why these posts go up in the first place. In my case, i seek to share my experience so that people can make educated decisions on their own, based on real-life, current experiences, and not what their slick packaging or "3 party" research tells you.
I am aware of this problem happening in small dogs, dobermans, labs, you name it. It seems like the product doesn't discriminate.
I share this with you all so that you can be aware of my ccurrent experience, and not to slam you. I am the PROOF that you have requested. Feel free to contact me directly, or through the group, i'll share with you medical records, letters from the surgeon, you name it. I would like you to be aware so that you can make good decisions for your pets. In my opinion the risk is far greater than the reward. In fact, I have a new slogan for the company:
GREENIES - Your dog can LIVE without them. |
Quote: CHICO
You talk of "choking" MY DOG DID NOT CHOKE TO DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my dog died from a surgery that was necessary to extract the partially digested greenie from his small intestines. my dog's intestines had turned necrotic. they had to take 3 1/2 feet of his intestines out.
AGAIN, WE FED THE RIGHT SIZE, WE WATCHED HIM CHEW, WE WATCHED HIM SWALLOW. Problem solved, right? Well, my dog is dead.
The problem is that this product did not digest or break down. I recall their website claiming that the product is "highly digestibele' Please tell me why a productt that claims to be "highly digestible" needs to be extracted from my dog. Even though the piece was fully chewed? CHICO do your homework please. Read up on this product and what people across the country are saying. There are concerns everywhere, and they're not "choking" concerns. |
Quote: I would merely like to clarify a point or two. Those of us who have personally experienced these problems are not out for "payback" or "revenge". The simple fact of the matter is this, we are concerned for the health and well-being of other's pets, and would be remiss if we DID NOT share our experiences.
As a society, we tend to be influenced by certain aspects of marketing.
1. We have a tendency to believe that a higher price is indicative of a higher quality product.
2. We have a certain amount of "blind faith" in a company's claims to the virtues of their product.
3. When we follow a manufacturer's directions as to portion size, we expect that portion size to be correct for our animals.
When I purchased Greenies, I did so at a vet's office. I was specifically instructed to get the petite size, which I did. The result was a near-fatal choking, colitis and vomiting. I was puzzled by the amount of the product that came back up, inasmuch as it appeared to be more than what had been ingested. The product had quite obviously expanded, once introduced to a fluid environment.
The company's response to this was to send me the Greenies bits. (And to admonish me for the fact that my dog is a "gulper" and should not have been given the size THEIR OWN packaging instructed me to give... Go figure.)
Oddly enough, when my friends' Golden Retriever choked and the company was notified, they were also sent a bag of the bits. These would be the same bits that are suggested for dogs 10 pounds and under. Theirs, by the way, is not a pygmy Golden, and weighs substantially over 10 pounds.
I had occassion to speak to close to twenty vets offices this week, in preparation for a news segment regarding this issue, and DID NOT FIND ONE who was unfamiliar with Greenies deaths. Now, how's that for proof?
I have to take issue with a company that makes claims they do not stand behind, cannot substantiate, and then shifts the blame to the consumer.
My friends who lost their young, healthy Samoyed are beside themselves and their vet is incensed over her needless death. When the Greenies piece expanded, it perforated her bowel and sepsis ensued.
Yes, they may be good for the teeth, but I've got to tell you, unless your pet has a heartbeat, it just really doesn't matter how fresh its breath is, now does it?
Make your own choices. That's what this country is all about. Those of us who are sensitive to this issue are only attempting to put all the facts out there so that yours can be an informed decision.
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Posted on 10/17/05 at 15:06:25 by Jeannie Thomason
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I know rge feeling, my dog chock on a greenie I was so far down his thoat I could not touch it. But I could see the impression on his neck were it was. He okay but would not eat his dogfood for two days. We could have lost him thank god he is okay. We have to get these off the market.
Hello, I wondering what to do now. My 4.5lb yorkie just swallowed the middle piece (I found the end pieces) of the greenie. He was not himself today and wouldn't eat or drink. The doctor did x-rays and said that everything looks fine. But he is still not himself. He has gone pee pee but no poo and he hasn't vomited. The doctor also stuck his finger down his throat and didn't feel anything. Does this mean everything is okay? Is there something else I can do? My doctor just told me to keep an eye out and if he throws up than bring him in. Also do I need blood test? This is my baby and I would do anything for him
My dog Peanut was so near death, that she was kept in the emergency care for 4 nights. Based upon an xray that showed an enormous mass in her intestines on a Saturday, they thought she had a huge tumor and scheduled the next possible date for a sonagram-for Tues. They told me she might not make it till then, and in fact could likely die that night. I chose bring her to the only ER available in a three hour radius. they too told me she was near death, and that I needed to consider euthanasia. There is a very long story associated with how she made it through that night- and it is, frankly, considered a miracle that she did. The long and short of it all is that ultimately it was found that the mass was not a tumor, but instead a blockage of the intestines- Greenies. I had given them to her and my other dogs 2x per day, as the product package allows for their size etc. My dog, literally suffered for months and gradually slid into a toxic and horrifically painful condition, due 100% to the snack Greenies. $4,350.00 later, she is back to her happy life and personality. However, no cost can ever be affixed to the months of pain and suffering that she endured, due I thought to quickly advancing age. Instead, it was to the greed and irresponsibility of a company that refuses to publicly acknowledge that thier product is a danger to pets. Shame on them.
Jillian, If you have not done so already, please report this to both S&M NuTec (Greenies Manufacture) and to the FDA.
I am amazed how many people are having problems with this product but never repoting the incidents to the company.
Let me know if you need the contact info.
Friday night/Saturday morning my King Charles Cavalier Spaniel became very lethargic and started throwing up. He threw up in the house, many, many times outside, and wouldn't eat or drink anything. He was sick all day on Saturday, and then around 7pm he passed a pretty large piece of greenie. It was the "toothbrush head" end of the greenie, and it was slightly expanded and hard like rubber. We were worried sick and felt terrible to see that a treat (reward!) made our little dog that sick. We saved the piece and ran straight to the internet, and like you all, discovered that our dog isn't the only one who has became very sick over the treat. We're so thankful he was eventually able to pass the big, nondigestible piece. We started feeding him Greenies about 1.5 months ago and were feeding the proper sized ones. We also watched him chew each one up and swallow it... Please help spread the word about the danger in Greenies. Based on what I've read, we are just so grateful that our dog is still with us.
I have been giving my dog petite greenies everyday for about 4 mths now and after reading the disturbing stories regarding this terrible product I immediatly stopped. My question is should I have my pet checked by the vet to make sure he has no blockages from this deadly treat. Very worried the damage this could have caused and it disgusts me that such a product is available!!!
Does anyone know if the symptoms can occur even months after the greenies are no longer given to your pet???
Hi Jennifer,
Yes, there is a class action suit going on right now. If you go to the main page of Whole Dog News or to the side bar on the right you will see the many posts and updates on Greenies. You can type in the word greenies in the word search box that will you give you ALL the posts and comments ever posted at Whole Dog News. I have more lined up as we speak to be published this week.
Mike Eastwood has filed a class action suit and would like anyone interested to contact him and to visit his blog, http://www.burtscause.com
I, too, have given my dogs eat Greenies for quite some time now. It is their favorite treat! I have a little Malti-Poo, and a Shih Tzu.
Does anyone know if any class action suits are going on? I am very worried about my babies!
Does anyone know what are the symptoms that something is seriously wrong??
Hi Jean,
Thank you for leaving a comment on Whole Dog News blog!
The only thing you can really do to determine any damage done from ingesting greenies is to keep on her. Make sure she has a good appetite, is having normal bowel movements and maintains her normal activity level. If there are any changes then you should get her to vet right away.
Have A Pawsitively Grrrreat Day!
Jeannie
Thank you for all the information. I have a Min Dox, that I have given Greenies for several months....once a week as a treat. I have stopped and pray to God she will be alright!
Is there any way to determine if the damage has already been done, other than watching her very closely?
Thank you again for the valuable information!!
Now I'm scared. I fed a Greenie for the first time to my corgi.... I hope she will be OK.. if anything happened to her I would die myself!!!
How long did it take before the symptoms started to show??
Lynne,
I have sent you email to a few people you may like to talk to who have either had dogs die or had to have surgery like your dog.
I did not know that about the warning on the label about chewing thoroughly and drink water following! LOL what a joke! Dogs as carnivores do NOT chew anything thoroughly and everyone knows you can lead a dog to his water bowl but you sure can not make him drink! how absurd!
Thanks for posting you story!
My 12.5 year old german shepherd is recovering from a blocked bowel which happened post greenies. In Novemver and December we have spent in excess of $3500 in vet bills. She was seen by my vet numerous times and was inpatient at the University of Fl veterinary school twice in the last two weeks and seen once before that. A week ago she bloated from the parttially blocked bowel.Finally with enemas and much medication her bowel seems clear, though it is still not fully functioning. The vet and I pulled long wads of green gunk and grass from her rectum over a several week period. The story is long and we are communicating with the Greenie people and I feel they should reimburse the bill. What kind of response will I get>
The very small warnings to "chew throughly" and" drink water" following eating them are absurd. Dogs do not chew throughly and you certainly can not tell them to drink water after a Greenie. I feel that the combination of cellulose (similiar to Citracil laxative-an expanding substance) and glycerine are dangerous.
I would appreciate hearing from others.
Thanks,
My dog also had a near-death experience with greenies. I had given her these for quite a while with no problems. Unfortunately, it only takes one time, one piece, and she was under the knife for emergency surgery (intestinal obstruction). Only her vet's skills saved her-we had no idea what caused it until they handed me the pieces. I implore every dog owner-please do not feed your dog greenies or any similar product-they are dangerous. By the way, my dog is an 80lb doberman whose jaws can extert 75lbs of pressure-enough to snap bones. The problem is not the dogs it is the PRODUCT !
I have just had a horrible experience and need a good product attorney. My dog is alive, but not thanks to these horrible Greenies, thanks to some very good vets.
I am sending this to every dog owning person I know and to my vet's office.
This is an outrage...I am horrified that my pet's favorite treat will eventually kill him. How dare they pass this garbage off on us to give to our beloved pets and then when they die, we are left with a dead dog or cat and a guilty conscience to live with the rest of our lives. Maybe they should be forced to eat a "greenie" every day the rest of their life to see how they feel!
Thanks for this...you may have just saved my dog's life!
I own a pet sitting company with over 2000 clients.....I want you to know that we have taken your gut wrenching experiences to heart and DO NOT feed any of our clients Greenies. Ever. I am so sad to hear these stories...I always feel if I manange to get my precious dog through a good life without a tragedy, it's a miracle. You have helped this happen for alot of dogs in Seattle.
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